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- From: stevez1@ibm.net (Steven R. Zuch)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual.misc,comp.lang.pascal.delphi.misc,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: "SHOULD I DUMP VISUAL BASIC?"
- Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 06:43:25 GMT
- Organization: Cogent Management Inc.
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- mobergru@oslonett.no (Rune Moberg) wrote:
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- >In article <4f92nd$1e3i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
- >stevez1@ibm.net (Steven R. Zuch) wrote:
- >>MS has an FAQ re: VB4 distribution size, whereby they state
- >>that many of the VB OCXs will be part of the next operating
- >>system. Not only can MS do this and incorporate VBRUN
-
- >MS (or rather Dave Cutler, I think that was his name) is working
- >hard on getting NT 4.0 to run well with only 8Mb of RAM installed.
- >This time he's trying to incorporate GDI into the kernel, reducing
- >memory footprint and increasing speed/performance.
-
- >The sizemaniac aka VB 4.0 doesn't fit into that strategy.
-
- My point was that MS can, and IMHO will, incorporate more
- OLE2 and OCXs into their next operating system, and therefore,
- the need to distribute so much run time stuff with VB 4 will
- not be required. VB may even become bundled with the
- next OS, just like QBasic became bundled with DOS.
-
-
- >>must nice having such monopolistic power. MS can kill
- >>development tools and applications by incorporating them
- >>into the operating system, just like IBM once bundled software
- >>with their mainframe boxes. History repeats itself.
-
- >I fail to see how that strategy can help MS sell operating systems.
-
- >In case you haven't noticed, MS' selling point these days is that
- >"we have all the applications", if they kill them off, developers
- >are highly likely to develop for other platforms.
-
- My point was that if a third party has a nice software program,
- MS may be able to incorporate the best of such into the
- operating system. Development languages may fall into
- this area. MS has been incorporating disk defragmenters,
- backup software, compression, desktop file managers,
- fax software, etc ... into Windows, regardless how the
- developers felt.
-
- >Delphi 1.0 has features that might surface in VB5 or 6, and 2.0
- >will be shipping this month...
-
- >Delphi 2.0 has form inheritance, multithreading, an even more optimizing
- >compiler (check their web page for details. It's awesome!) and improved
- >database controls (Delphi 1.0 already beats VB4 hands down).
-
- Thanks for the info. What does that have to do with my comments?
- Delphi does have many features that VB does not. But, MS is
- not goint to incorporate Delphi into their Desktop suite, or their
- operating system, unless they buy Borland, and Gates learns
- to love Pascal over Basic :).
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